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Post by Vito on Mar 20, 2010 12:13:28 GMT -8
Why are we trying to sack Windsor and Quebec before we secure our foot hold in Detroit?
History taught us that the Roman Empire fell because it got stretched too thin and pride for the sect was lost.
We are allowing those of little status dictate to those that are proven. Because of this we were talked into jumping our own sect mate for walking in on a meeting. Which is his Caine given right.
Granted he's had it coming for months but he has more status that most of you combined. I think he has earned the right to talk down to you.
Questioning is fine but disrespect will no longer be tolerated. I will personally turn every Cainite that I deem to be a Loyalist into a wall decoration that steps foot on my domain. Disrespect is a cancer in the Sabbat that needs to be removed.
I will halt every one of their plans, kill their mortal allies and spit in the face of their fucking Gods if I have to to make this city understand. Brothers and Sisters in Caine getting your rocks off by getting 15 members of the city together to beat down a FEARED and PROVEN member of the Sabbat that had NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR HAVENS BEING BURNED DOWN is not a smart idea. Find those that did it and deal with them. Jack accused the BNB yet by the cameras of the hotel Stacey was with you all when the fires began. Even if it was a pack mate of his then are we going to start holding every associate of a stupid person accountable for that stupid person. Because if I am allowed to drop down anyone associated with stupid people almost none of you would be walking. There are members of this city who have tried to bring in Church Hunters, there are members in this city that built the island of doctor maroe (sp) in open public, there are those that made a name for themselves by getting onto Youtube and who are still wearing the faces of those they were merely posing as. By the way all those were just 1 PACK!!!! So that means, by your logic, anyone caught talking to them should be put down.
Also who is Jack? What do we know about him? He said he had an eye witness yet the police have yet to find the party involved or even a witness to ANY of the fires. How do we not know it was him who was responsible for it and that he is so messed up in the head that he believes his own lies? You TRUSTED a new member to our city without question without even asking the accused their whereabouts during the time in question.
Now I ask again, why are we starting more fights with the Cam when we are at war with ourself? I would be more worried about those in Ann Arbor that have been pushing into our city for months now, or the Snakes have rooted into our fields and have began to lay eggs. Or about the Demon that has OPENLY walked in our Esbot and mocked us and who has threatened our very existence.
But please keep fighting each other and ignore those that have proven themselves time and again.
~ Bonaparte
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Post by thesteve on Mar 20, 2010 15:08:48 GMT -8
Oh! One more bit of fun for those that missed it.
Hi! My name is Leonard Church. I am Black Hand. Do what I say, when I tell you to do something, or I WILL kill you.
Also, isn't there a DEMON in the city. A DEMON who burned down some fucking book stores? A DEMON who has displayed TIME and TIME again that HE HAS POWER OVER FIRE AND HAS NO PROBLEM USING IT FOR HIS OWN ENDS, GENERALLY AGAINST US?
So, NATURALLY, it must have been the pack that generally manages to get shit done in this city, the pack that HAS A MEMBER OF THE BLACK HAND IN IT.
Pull your heads out of your fucking asses, cock suckers. Start using your fucking brains, or I will take them from you.
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Post by Camille on Mar 20, 2010 15:43:49 GMT -8
So, just so I'm clear, Church; Are you saying that the red head guy, the one who calls himself Mr Smith, who can light himself on fire, is a Demon? That's the only one I know of who has displayed power over fire...
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Post by thesteve on Mar 21, 2010 0:31:21 GMT -8
Whatever. Argue scemantics with me. I promise it won't end badly.
Also, I'm lying about that last part. It WILL end badly.
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Post by The One Rob on Mar 21, 2010 12:28:15 GMT -8
Don't assume she's arguing semantics when asking you for clarification. She has been researching the demon for some time, but little concrete information has been forthcoming from even the most influential sources.
Mr Smith's state of being has been in question for the last month, however no experts on the subject of demonology have stepped forward with clarification one way or the other, the only thing that has been found out is no matter the amount of resources sent to track him down, he evades them.
So, if you have specific information as to whom this infernalist is, or where this demon makes his home, I suggest you share it with me, and we will do what we can to destroy it.
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Post by Kale on Mar 21, 2010 14:35:38 GMT -8
i'M CURIOUS. wHO IS mR. sMITH AND WHY IS HE SUSPECTED OF BEING A DEMON? wAS HE AT LAST eSBAT? wAS HE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT DEBACLE?
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Post by Vito on Mar 21, 2010 17:23:43 GMT -8
WOAH! What the fuck?! This isn't the thread to discuss Demons or if Mr. Smith is a Demon or not... Which by the way if any of you were to bother asking he IS. I gave the evidence to Antonio before get got turned into a fucking smore for being first place in the special Olympics. The reason the cunt with the loud as hell cum dumpster for a mouth hasn't found ANYTHING is because she decided to try and contact church officials to bring in hunters to this city. She has been put on time out.
Oh and by the way:
I here by declare that anyone found aiding her in any way will be declared an enemy of the sect, by the Class of 99, until she can explain why she decided to attempt to bring in church hunters. Or why a helicopter blew up over her island when her island is a walking, living, spectacle for hunters to attract to us, or why she still wears the face of a You Tube star. Or why the fuck Chris Burke shows more signs of intelligence than she does.
Fact is if we are going to just randomly assigning blame to people then I declare Jack to be the Pumpkin King. And I fucking hated that movie so he now should be put down for being a bad cliche. And frankly our new bishop looks like a bad version of Ebon! Does that mean I can drop him as well? Actually I have proof that his pack priest is a transvestite, we should take that as gold too. I mean fuck you believe the word of someone who was never even in the same room as the majority of the bad news bears then you should believe what I have to say since I am proven, feared, enriched and very fucking connected to the point that nos take tips from me on how to be a nos.
Have a great fucking night and stop talking about stupid shit on my thread!
~Bonaparte
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Post by stacey on Mar 21, 2010 17:27:12 GMT -8
Its been pointed out more than a few times by more than a few people that the fellow is a demon - such as in the original post in this thread... Like usual it comes down to people selectively choosing who to listen to and what advice to follow, then claiming innocence when they do something stupid when they should be claiming ignorance. It is inane for someone to think they'd have to question Church on who the demon is at this point, but completely expected considering the source.
On a side note, I'm currently accepting explanations and apologies for being attacked without provocation. A private message is acceptible, public even better. That is all.
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Post by Kale on Mar 21, 2010 18:21:28 GMT -8
i'M SORRY sTACEY, i FAIL TO SEE THE MENTION OF THIS mR. sMITH FELLOW PRIOR TO cAMILLE'S POST. uNLESS HIS FIRST NAME IS jACK, THAT IS. jUST CLARIFYING MY POSITION, THAT'S ALL.
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Post by Vito on Mar 21, 2010 18:25:13 GMT -8
Now I ask again, why are we starting more fights with the Cam when we are at war with ourself? I would be more worried about those in Ann Arbor that have been pushing into our city for months now, or the Snakes have rooted into our fields and have began to lay eggs. Or about the Demon that has OPENLY walked in our Esbot and mocked us and who has threatened our very existence.
But please keep being stupid I beg you...
~Bonaparte
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Post by Kale on Mar 22, 2010 2:15:48 GMT -8
i JUST GOT HERE, BUT WHY DO YOU FEEL ENTITLED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT AND NOT DO ANYTHING? jUDGING BY YOUR STATURE, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET SOME OF THESE THINGS DONE, OR AT LEAST PROVIDE US WITH SOME DETAILED INFORMATION REGARDING THEM. dID i MISS THE MEMO IN WHICH YOU DID THAT?
aLSO, i'M CURIOUS. sINCE i JUST ARRIVED, DO i EVEN KNOW YOU? wERE YOU AT LAST eSBAT, OR THE eSBAT BEFORE THAT WHERE, i HEAR, THEY DID A vAULDERIE FOR THE WHOLE CITY? iF YOU WERE not AT THOSE EVENTS, HOW EXACTLY, IF i MAY ASK, ARE YOU NOT UNDER QUESTION JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE PEOPLE YOU ARE POINTING YOUR FINGER AT?
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Post by Camille on Mar 22, 2010 6:53:43 GMT -8
People love to point fingers in this city Kale, haven't you noticed that thus far?
Stacey, let me be the first to apologize, for my actions at least. Things got way out of control and ended with people who apparently did not deserve it getting hurt. Wouldn't be the first time it has happened in this city.
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Post by The One Rob on Mar 22, 2010 14:24:34 GMT -8
aLSO, i'M CURIOUS. sINCE i JUST ARRIVED, DO i EVEN KNOW YOU? wERE YOU AT LAST eSBAT, OR THE eSBAT BEFORE THAT WHERE, i HEAR, THEY DID A vAULDERIE FOR THE WHOLE CITY? iF YOU WERE not AT THOSE EVENTS, HOW EXACTLY, IF i MAY ASK, ARE YOU NOT UNDER QUESTION JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE PEOPLE YOU ARE POINTING YOUR FINGER AT? I will be happy to answer this part of your query, Bonaparte will have to answer to the rest himself. The only people whom were under question for their trustworthiness are those that refused to partake, not those that were not in attendance. In the future, all members of the city will be required to attend city Ritae, or present valid excuses to the Archbishop or Bishops.
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Post by ziggy on Mar 23, 2010 16:13:00 GMT -8
Let me first say Bonapart, I am impressed. I was under the impression that most content on the Internet; including this thread; were public domain and as such not own-able by anyone. Bravo to your super sneaky ways to gain ownership.
Also, I hate to be a sour puss, but it a misconception that Rome fell because "it got stretched to thin". Many historians believe it fell for many reasons such as Christianity, decadence, lead, monetary trouble, and military problems caused the Fall of Rome. Imperial incompetence and chance could be added to the list. Even the rise of Islam is proposed as the reason for Rome's fall, by some who think the Fall of Rome happened at Constantinople in A.D. 1453.
Man I hate to call people out on obvious mistakes, but someone has to do it right?
You said "We are allowing those of little status dictate to those that are proven. Because of this we were talked into jumping our own sect mate for walking in on a meeting. Which is his Caine given right."
I completely agree with you, or I would if it had not been sanctioned by both Bishops and later the Priscus did not object.
Ooh, 0 for 2 not looking good.
You later stated "Questioning is fine but disrespect will no longer be tolerated. I will personally turn every Cainite that I deem to be a Loyalist into a wall decoration that steps foot on my domain. Disrespect is a cancer in the Sabbat that needs to be removed."
From the Code of Milan: Statutes V. All Sabat shall treat their piers fairly and equally, upholding the strength and unity of the Sabat. If necessary, they shall provide for the needs of their brethren.
It is fair and equal for you to treat those with disrespect in return, but to decorate a wall with a Canite is not honorable.
From the Code of Milan: Statute VII. Those who are not honorable under this code shall be considered less than equal and therefore unworthy of assistance.
"Who is Jack?" Jack is the Canite who witnessed attacks against the city which was later verified as truth by multiple people.
My question is "Who is Bonapart?" Bonapart is a Canitie of substantial influence who is chiming in on a topic he was not present for. A Canite who criticizes decisions made by this cities leaders. Oh and the owner of the Internet.
Whoopee.
P.S. You don't need to listen to me. I am just a Canite of no importance.
Ziggy
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Post by Vito on Mar 23, 2010 18:22:54 GMT -8
I'm sorry "Ziggy" for not getting back to you sooner, I was at a meeting of leadership discussing the events in the city and trying to resolve it before it got out of hand. Didn't see you there otherwise I would have answered you in person.
Who is Bonaparte? He is a midget who IS the sole information network for this city. He is Feared, Connected five times over, Enriched and Blooded. Not to mention he is the Ductus of the Class of 99 AND a master of his path.
I am sorry for not go into detail about the history lesson you obviously missed the entire point of my rant. Why did I call it my thread? Because currently I am the one overseeing the security of our networks in Aaron's disappearance. I will call it whatever I want to call it. I'm not Al Gore I didn't invent it.
As for my calling a hunt on Camille, those of much more importance than me have ordered me to recall it. So I am. I will not hunt down Camille for her actions that I deemed a threat to our survival, because I am not the Archbishop; and am not allowed to give that order.
I was also told to clean up my language when talking on the boards. Considering the person who told me this, and the payment he gave to me for my services I will not use slurs against women, ever again. I am very sorry for that.
As for you "Ziggy" as far as I am concerned, I am a nobody that you obviously feel that you can talk down to... It's funny I am a midget. But I would be happy to discuss this with you in person and express to you how greatly appreciated your insignificance is.
Oh Camille, you should be happy to know that my opinion on you was shot down. And that your Bishop and Ductus took responsibility for aiding you in your path. And yes, it was me.
Lastly, for those of you who just are curious. I think highly of Stacey and his triumphs in our city. He cares deeply about the future of this city and to see him attacked very stupidly, in my opinion, upsets me greatly. As for the actions of his pack mates that is on them. I do not hold one accountable for the others actions. The Bad News Bears overall are one of the strongest packs in our city and are great soldiers for our sect. It angered me to see an attack on those I considered to be my allies.
As for my original reason for this post. I still feel its a bad idea to attack Windsor until we secure our own city against those that are already attacking it.
~Bonaparte
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